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Drafting and pressganging by the fleet



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Time compression for warship crews, example Yeager

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>From: Onno Meyer <Onno.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
>Subject: cherryhlist
>Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 15:21:32 +0200 (MET DST)
> 	Bet didn't join the _Africa_ in 2320, though. She was pressganged
> much later in the War, along with lots of other youngsters. Can anyone
> remember if a date is given for this? I think it would bring the time
> compression ratio up sharply. And how is Bet calculating that 20 years? If
> she's counting subjective time, she'd never get off the _Africa_ by 2352,
> (assuming she is taken around 2335-40). A warship would simply jump too often
> with each jump being 'really' 3-4 months. Her 20 years would last at least an
> objective century. She must be counting 20 'real' years, which would knock the
> date of her 'volunteering' back to 2332. This date, however, may be a little
> too early for the Fleet to need such tactics (only 12 years after _Hellburners_
> -- would the EC still have been supportive at this time?). Another option, of
> course, is that warships jump 'faster' than normal ships, with less time
> lost. This would allow her a longer subjective time on board. Or perhaps the
> numbers just don't add up -- Bet 'appears' to be using a subjective timescale
> (she's 37, looks 37, claims 20 years experience, and was taken at 16), but
> such a timescale just doesn't fit into 'real' time, and would actaully extend
> far past the entire duration of the War. 
> 
> 			Lesley
Didn't Dekker go to the belt to escape the draft? In my translation of _Rimrunner_, Bet was not about to be pressganged but drafted (no difference, but the draft was probably a little more formal). What term is used in the english text?
_Heavy time_ mentions "draft riots" at sol station in 2322. _Hellburner_ said that Porey's carrier had the full marine complement. BTW, Graff's carrier spend a lot of time at sol two, doing system defense. If _Africa_ did their share of defensive operations, this could make up for a lot of time. One book (_DS_?) said that _Africa_ and _Norway_ were especially infamous among the civilians, and they wouldn't have such a reputation if they had spend the war attacking union carriers.

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>From: Jo Jaquinta <jaymin@maths.tcd.ie>
>Subject: cherryhlist: Bet Yeager
>Date: Tue, 18 May 93 8:55:20 BST
>In my translation of
>_Rimrunner_, Bet was not about to be pressganged but drafted (no difference,
>but the draft was probably a little more formal). What term is used in
>the english text?
To the best of my reccollection The Africa turned up in her system. Knowing its reputation she decided to attempt to better her future and *volunteered* before they could pressgang her.
				Jo


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>From: Lesley Grant <lgrant@maths.tcd.ie>
>Subject: cherryhlist
>Date: Tue, 18 May 93 9:25:52 BST
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> >From: Onno Meyer <Onno.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
 
> Didn't Dekker go to the belt to escape the draft? In my translation of
> _Rimrunner_, Bet was not about to be pressganged but drafted (no difference,
> but the draft was probably a little more formal). What term is used in
> the english text?
"Taken": a paraphrase of the sentence is 'the Fleet would take what it wanted, which was always the young ones and supplies'. There didn't seem to be anything formal about it, but rather more in the line of boarding a merchanter and dragging away the teenagers and 20-ish year olds. The Fleet might have called it a draft, if it ever cared much about its image, but merchanters and stationers seem to have regarded it as terrorism.
	
> One book (_DS_?) said that _Africa_ and _Norway_ were especially
> infamous among the civilians, and they wouldn't have such a reputation if
> they had spend the war attacking union carriers.
Wasn't this from their actions in boarding merchanters? Norway had a reputation for mainly taking supplies (although it also took people), while Africa took what/whoever it wanted, and shot anyone who complained.
			Lesley

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